Dangos 2091 canlyniad

Re Oregon question; unwilling to give views on affair but sends 2 pamphlets (one by Sturgis). Displeased with 'unfriendliness' of 'liberal party in England' to USA Critical of reliance on Nootka Sound Convention; the proposal that the boundary should be the 49th parallel is reasonable as S. has said, but British govt have been influenced by fur companies who are afraid of losing £10,000 worth of beaver. Govt risks the peace of the world by binding itself to the decisions of its predecessors.

Has heard from Lansdowne that S. is writing an article on Ireland for the Edinburgh Review; wishes to make some observations; defends Poor Law; comments on relations of landlord and tenant; opposes the suggestion that Parliament should sit occasionally in Dublin; gives reasons; comments on payment of RC clergy; is leaving for Edwinsford, Llandovery, on Monday. 'Private'.

Has received letter of Nov. 24; glad that their views are 'so much in unison.' Wishes he had recommended occasional sittings of Parliament in Dublin '... & proposed for consideration Royal visits.' Believes O'Connell would approve of these; hopes he will be able to discuss these matters with S. at Castle Hill.

Thanks for papers sent him by S.; agrees to his instructions as to secrecy; agrees that information cannot be published. 'The popular notions on the subject of poor laws seem to me so erroneous & so mischievous that every effort shd be made to correct them...'. 'Private '.

Approves of his currency paper although others have recommended similar measures; comments on effect of currency question on factory question; hopes to see Howick at the Political Economy Club.

Re Irish poor; lengthy economic arguments on approaches to problem; agrees with Howick that emigration not complete answer to Irish problem but still considers it an important factor. Draft ff. 1-2 missing.

Returns the notice having altered parts. 'I never was poor law Commr in Ireland... If you would like a list of my works, I can give you one. You are mistaken in supposing they are not numerous.'. [Copy of note included]. [Typewritten copy by Mrs Strachey from Contemporary Biography letters to C. Griffin BM MSS 28512, ff. 105-7].

Will visit Antwerp tomorrow and return to London on Monday; pleased with tour; comments on society in northern Italy; '...the bulk of the young nobles have no career. They devote themselves therefore to love making'; feels sorry for Austria, '... the people are in a chronic conspiracy against her...'. Comments on expected civil war in Switzerland; sees that his article has appeared in the Edinburgh [Review], '... but the part of Hamlet [? Peel] left out. My general views of Irish politics were not too strong for Lord Lansdowne's stomach, but others it seems had weaker digestions. I have not read Mill on [George] Grote.'. Copy attached.

Plans for his tour; has heard from Tocqueville. 'As we recede from the centres of civilization. London & Paris, the people get every 100 miles more & more childish.' Sir Frederic[k] Adam would like to meet Grote; desires to know how to meet Col. [William] Moore at Rome; critical of Austrians, Neapolitans & Italians. 'We are all puzzled here by Lord John Russell's letter. I explain it as a claptrap...'. '... Palmerston is de-ified. I suspect that I pass for a Tory as I do not join in the canonization.'.

Ref. to conversation at Madame Bunsen's re Irish RC clergy; has papers of use to S. but cannot find them; Russell and Palmerston's views.

Encloses passages re RC glebes and a paper by Colonel Burgoyne, Chief Commissioner of the Boards of Works in Ireland; also sends notes from evidence taken before the Irish committee on the state of Ireland; refs. to Lansdowne and O'Connell; suggests comparison between Ireland and Prussia.

Estimate of Irish Church property incorrect; shall send correct estimates when available; asks Nassau William Senior's opinion of suggestion that Parliament and Court should meet in Dublin; gives his views. Leaf missing.

Glad that recipient to visit Bowood; has not read recipient's 'sheets' as yet; inquires after mislaid box.

Pleased with Nassau William Senior's second edition; sends quotations from letter by Whately.

Query re extract from S.'s journals ['Behind the scenes in English politics', Nineteenth Century, Vol. 28, Sept. 1890, pp. 369-380]. 'It was Spencer Walpole... who requested me to ask you this question.'. Date torn.

Comments on proofs of S.'s Journals. Suggests omission of 'cynical joke' by Charles Villiers about Lord John Russell.

Re publication of extracts of S.'s journals 'I do not think there is anything to regret. Lord Lansdowne only says that Layard is very unpopular & Layard has attacked so many people with such virulence, in former days, that he really cannot complain. The passage I asked you to omit was something Fred. Elliot said about my Aunt's pernicious influence on my Uncle [Lord John Russell] & the consequent complaints of his colleagues ... has not been printed.'.

News of his visit.